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Posted 17 October 2011 - 02:21 PM

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 12:41 PM

As people commented on your other song, you need to sync the delay to your groove or vice-versa. It just makes the song sound random and messy, especially when the initial notes aren't exactly in the pocket to begin with.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:06 PM

This might come in handy to do this.. http://www.sae.edu/r...Beatimes%20.htm
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:51 PM

Thank you, gents, for those observations. Those thoughts help me plot the
directions I have to work on and could save me many hours of trial and error.
The song I have in the program now is a remake of one I recorded not long ago
and I am being very careful to mark the in and out point on each 4 bar section.
When you tell Garage Band what the tempo is, the Band in a Box composition lays
right in exactly on the divider, four to the bar.
I can't quite yet hear what you are hearing, but feel certain in time I will.
Please bear in mind these compositions are effectively created on the fly, so there
might be a little tendency for me to wait for the beat before plucking the note.
If that's it, I can no doubt fix that; after all, the instrument is in my hands.
Another possibillty is to re record and ditch the original.
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to hear and analyze.

Also, Mark and Alistair, I got to hear your work by following the links. I have
had a problem with Soundclick that disappeared going through Face Book Alistair.
Lot of good stuff coming out of your studios, both of yours.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:58 PM

View Posted_shaw, on 18 October 2011 - 10:51 PM, said:

I am being very careful to mark the in and out point on each 4 bar section.
When you tell Garage Band what the tempo is, the Band in a Box composition lays
right in exactly on the divider, four to the bar.


I'm not sure what you're saying there. But the delay will act independently of the measure markings of BIAB. It will act however you set it to act. If there is no BPM sync button on the delay in Band In A Box, than you should ditch it for now until you develop your ear.

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I can't quite yet hear what you are hearing, but feel certain in time I will.


Tap your foot to the rhythm of the song (the drums, which won't change tempo in this instance). Then tap your finger to the rhythm of the delay (each repeat of the signal being that rhythm) You will hear very quickly what the problem is. The rhythm of the delay should be in sync with the rhythm of the song, right now it isn't. Even if your playing was tighter, it would still be in it's own little rhythmic world.
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 01:42 AM

This is really good. I loved you innovation and variation. I was reminded an old delta blues player.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 10:12 AM

Thank you. There's something trying to come out, for sure.

After what must seem like a lot of prodding, it is finally sinking in what the
issue of delay, or latency, when adding a live guitar or other real instrument
track into a time line array. I had been confusing delay with the added effects,
such as echo, instead of the unintentional consequences of digital recording
with Garage Band or similar programs.
As I have said, my hard drives are 7200rpm, and the processor is Intel Dual Care
2.1 Ghz.
The suggestion to go through the playback settings is one I am taking to heart.
I am into the manuals,now. In other words, learning to set the machine up so as
to have as many free resources while recording.
Without the help of musicians on this site, I probably would have gone on forever
without learning about latency. B)

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 10:29 AM

No, you had it right the first time. Nobody is talking about latency when they are referring to your delay, they ARE referring to the added effects.

Don't go mucking around with your settings if you don't know what you're doing, truth be told there are very few "tweaks" that actually do anything on PC's.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 05:03 PM

I won't get too deep into the tweaking. Hopefully, I covered most of that before I bought the thing -- Nvidea Graphics card, 6 G ram, and dual core processor.
I was told about a setting. In Garage Band preferences > Audio, click minimize buffer.
I hadn't had that selected.
The Audio interface should take care of some of those problems, too. They definitely say to not count on USB an instrument or microphone into a Hard Drive. Alesis iO with Firewire and pristine channels start at about $100.
I have to now balance the creative side with the tech side; in other words, turn it down, turn off the effects, all the while improvising lines. That's not all bad. Already I have shifted to adding the guitar part after the vocal. That's way smarter. :unsure:

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