[Bruce N]

Sign up is now open till May 6th.

As per-usual, indicate whether you wish to compete as an Lyricist or musician, or if you're willing to participate as either Lyricist or Musician, deciding factor will be dependent on the number of entrants and what they have chosen, in order to achieve the maximum number of teams.

Post your intention in this thread. Please be sure you are committed to this contest, and not back out at the last minuet.

Teams, song requirements and rules will be announced on May 7th. and the contest will run till 11:59 PM CST 25th of May

Voting to take place from May 26 to May 31 11:59 PM CST. Winner announced June 1st.

All Participants must be a member of The Muse's Muse Forum Site prior to April 1, 2010.

For first timers and new members who are not sure what this contest is about, please check out the previous collab contests. This is a very popular contest, so sign up early to avoid disappointment.

Bruce

[graybeard]

Count me in as a lyricist.

Thanks!
Graybeard

[neuroron]

Count me in as a musician - Ron

[jonie]

Count me in as a lyricist please.

[Alistair S]

I'm in, but only as a lyricist on this one, due to time constraints.

However, I have been fortunate to be able to take part in most of these and will happily step aside to make way for new entrants or people who have missed out before.

[Billy]

Count me in as a lyricist please.

Billy

[kimberlyinnc]

I would enjoy doing this as a lyricist, if there is enough space, BUT if not, then you can omit my name first, it's no problem:) Just use me if you have an extra musician to come along..I PREFER lyricists that have never had the opportunity to collaborate first dibs...in my place. I can't offer services as a musician:)
Thanks
Kimberly

[daddio]

ok, I'm in as a musician.

[Decker]

Count me in! Either as musician or lyricist, whatever the team requires. ;-)

Hope you're all well!

Jp

[starsinmyeyes]

Hi, I would like to register my interest as a lyricist But please let the records show that I am more than happy to relinquish the opportunity should there be an excess of us .

[fabkebab]

Sign me up as either musician or lyricist

[No Future]

I am really new to collaboration contests, but I would like to try by participating as a lyricist.

[NigeQ]

Count me in as a musician

[Neal K]

I'm in as a musician.

Neal

[TamsNumber4]

I would like to try as lyricist and would step down if needed.

[FunkDaddy]

I'm down to musicify a lyric

[SatanInventedBras]

Count me in as a lyricist, though I warn you, I'll back out for a minuet!

[Len]

Lyricist please ... though I'm another who will stand aside for a newbie.

[lyD]

I'm a bit reluctant to enter this, as I have exams starting in a couple of weeks, but at the same time it'd be a shame to miss out given how rare these are. I'll manage a 1+1 at least, so I suppose I'd say put me down as a musician if there are more lyricists than musicians - a 1+1 is better than no musician at all, right?

Actually, on second thoughts, I think there's too high a risk of me letting a lyricist down on this. Probably best to count me out.

[Bruce N]

Confirmed participants so far

Lyricists
graybeard
jonie
Billy
starsinmyeyes
No Future
TamsNumber4
S.I.B.

Tentative Lyricists
Alistair S
Kimberlyinn
Len


Musicians
Neuroron
daddio
Decker
Fabkebab
NigeQ
Neal K
FunkDaddy

Still one day to go for signing up, and for the musicians out there still contemplating about signing up, there's 3 mighty fine lyricists looking for some action.

[martin-6]

I just found this post with 5 hours to go and I'd like to be a lyricist, but if it breaks the numbers I would understand.

[fabkebab]

Its a shame we dont have a few new musicians - The musical contributers looks like a Muses Muse "hall of fame" of old timers

Surely someone new can pitch in?

[Billy]

fabkebab, on 06 May 2010 - 08:59 AM, said:

Its a shame we dont have a few new musicians - The musical contributers looks like a Muses Muse "hall of fame" of old timers

Surely someone new can pitch in?

I agree! I'm curious to know whether or not new members (musicians) are fully aware of the various forums and options on this site. If not, I can see how this missed this posting and opportunity. I'd sure like to see 4 more sign up so everyone could participate. Any chance of flooding the forums with requests for a day or two more? It would be a shame to exclude people from this. Just a thought.

Billy

[daddio]

Old-timer??????
I resemble that remark.
I know that jimski is having problems with his recording setup or he would be here. Maybe we should go through the song crit board and invite some to join us.

[Bruce N]

Thanks martin-6, but you'll be on the reserve list for now, unless we get some more musicians to sign up.

As for extending the sign up period, there's still a good eleven hours left, all times are for people living on Tulsa time.

As for giving notice that this contest is happening, I did have a post in the " Other Contests forum " for close to a month prior to the start of this contest announcing this contest and it has been advertised in the " General Music Forum ". Plus you must have had been an member for a month to compete in this contest.

So far we have seven full teams, I notice a number of musicians who have competed before in this contest who don't seem to be around or visit here very much anymore.

I will be posting the teams and the requirements and rules sometime on Friday or early Saturday morning, so there's still a considerable amount of time left to get your name signed up for this contest, hopefully we can get more musicians to get on board.

"A who's who of old timers" maybe so, but a guarantee of some great quality songs coming forward.

For those that are wondering about Tulsa Time. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=eJBeujAQf_0

[Billy]

I hear ya! Tulsa time sounds good to me!

Billy

[jonie]

Dear Bruce (and you are so dear to me)

Please add me to the tentative list and give the solid spot to Martin 6. I've had more than my share of enjoyment from this particular competition.

[SatanInventedBras]

jonie, on 06 May 2010 - 05:42 PM, said:

Dear Bruce (and you are so dear to me)

Please add me to the tentative list and give the solid spot to Martin 6. I've had more than my share of enjoyment from this particular competition.

And if another newbie expresses interest, please but me on the tentative list, as well.

[NigeQ]

For future reference feel free to post an ad on the Song Critques board. That will be you best bet to find some new blood

[Bruce N]

jonie, on 06 May 2010 - 06:42 PM, said:

Please add me to the tentative list and give the solid spot to Martin 6. I've had more than my share of enjoyment from this particular competition.

That's very gracious of you Jonie, and I guess that will now leave first place open for the rest of the field.

So for the next collab contest, Jonie, Alistair, Kim and Len will have first dibs for a spot, if they so desire.

Sorry Sarah, but you're stuck in this contest now, and it's about bloody well time you wrote some lyrics....

As it now stands the following names are in the contest.


Lyricists
graybeard
Billy
starsinmyeyes
No Future
TamsNumber4
S.I.B.
Martin-6



Musicians
Neuroron
daddio
Decker
Fabkebab
NigeQ
Neal K
FunkDaddy


Tentative Lyricists
Alistair S
Kimberlyinn
Len
jonie

I will be commencing this contest some time later on this evening so check in sometime very late tonight or early tomorrow for full details

So stay tuned, or is that in tune.

[Bruce N]

Okay, I guess it's about time to get this show on the road, and just a few words for the first timers and a couple of hints, communication is the key here and some give and take with your partner, as noted all the musicians here have competed in this contest before, and for most of the lyricists it's their first time so don't be shy about asking your partner for advice.

Contest is now open and will run till May 25 11:59 PM CST which I believe is about May 26 5:59 AM GMT

I will in about a weeks time, post a pinned topic in this forum with instructions for posting the completed song and the judging criteria, and method of voting.

Now on to the teams

Neuroron - Martin-6

daddio - SatanInventedBras

Decker - TamsNumber4

Fabkebab - Graybeard

NigeQ - Billy

Neal K - Starsinmyeyes

FunkDaddy - No Future


And now on to the song requirements.

The theme for the song is "Summer" IE: The song should have a very definite summertime feel to it, the subject matter can be anything that is summer related, examples of that would be songs like, "Summertime" - Gershwin, "The Boys Of Summer" - Don Henley, "In The Summertime"- Mungo Jerry, "Saturday In The Park" - Chicago, "Summertime Blues" - Eddy Cochran

Requirements for the Lyricists:

The word "Summer" must appear in the title, or you may also use the words "Summertime" "Summers" or "Summer's"
You may use any format of Verse, Chorus, Bridge, or combination thereof, no restrictions on lyric structure
The lyrics need not contain the word summer in them, but it should be obvious the song is summer themed as that will be part of the judging criteria.

Requirements for the Musicians:

The song should be radio friendly, meaning the length of the song from start to finish should be no shorter then 2:50 or no longer then 3:10, with a target of 3 minuets flat. (Lyricists should also take note of this)

You may use any style or genre of music for the song.

You may use any amount of instrumentation in the song, from 1 + 1 to multi instruments.

You may use drum loops and or rhythm accompaniment, and sequenced loops, but they must be you own creation. No store bought loops except for the drum loops.

Vocals may be handled either by the musician or the lyricist or both team members.


Any questions, concerns or comments please address them in this thread.

Good luck everyone and I hope by the end of this contest we'll all be sitting in the shade sipping a tall cool one while listening to the fine selections of tunes presented here.

Bruce

This post has been edited by Bruce N: 08 May 2010 - 07:37 PM
Reason for edit: Realignment of two teams

[Alistair S]

The only thought that occurs to me, Bruce is that I think Daddio and Billy have been teamed up in one of these comps before.. maybe a switch is in order?

[Bruce N]

Alistair S, on 08 May 2010 - 02:19 PM, said:

The only thought that occurs to me, Bruce is that I think Daddio and Billy have been teamed up in one of these comps before.. maybe a switch is in order?

It's really quite possible, while trying to work out teams it's almost like playing 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon.

If need be, or if they feel it's warranted, a switch I think could be made with Billy and SIB

With Sarah and Daddio teaming up and Billy ponying with Sir Nige. (or were they a team before ? )

What say the members involved ?

[daddio]

yes, I've been out of town.
I think a switch would be good. I have worked with Billy before and after the hard time I gave him last time, he'd probably welcome a switch.
It works for me, if it's ok with everyone else.

[Billy]

daddio, on 08 May 2010 - 06:16 PM, said:

I think a switch would be good.

That hurts!!!


I'm fine with whomever I'm paired! Just not Daddio, please!!!


Good luck to everybody.

Billy

[NigeQ]

Oh Sibby, that was so close, maybe next time

So in the words of Sheryl Crow it's 'Billy and me'

[Bruce N]

Alright that was practically painless, seems everyone is in agreement with this switch, although I haven't heard from Sibby, as I understand it she's pretty easy... er...I mean she's very acomidating....ah..um....she at least expects a dinner and movie....er....I'll just shut up for now...

The new teams as they stand now will be.

Nige Q - Billy

Daddio - SatanInventedBras

And to avoid any confusion I've edited post 31 to reflect that change.

[SatanInventedBras]

What the flip did I miss?! No need to fight over me boys, there's enough of me ... Oh geez...

Nige - maybe next time... Daddio- can't wait to start workin' with ya!

[NigeQ]

SatanInventedBras, on 10 May 2010 - 01:07 AM, said:

What the flip did I miss?! No need to fight over me boys, there's enough of me ... Oh geez...

Hey Don, hey Nige, boys, you don't have to fight
Hot dog, I'm feeling lucky tonight

[fabkebab]

Bruce N, on 08 May 2010 - 09:39 AM, said:

You may use drum loops and or rhythm accompaniment, and sequenced loops, but they must be you own creation. No store bought loops except for the drum loops.

Could you please clarify what you mean is allowable for drums :


In the above statement you seem to say that they must be your own creation, but then you suggest that drum loops can be bought.

Am I the only one who is worrying about this yet

[Bruce N]

fabkebab, on 10 May 2010 - 09:23 PM, said:

Bruce N, on 08 May 2010 - 09:39 AM, said:

You may use drum loops and or rhythm accompaniment, and sequenced loops, but they must be you own creation. No store bought loops except for the drum loops.

Could you please clarify what you mean is allowable for drums :


In the above statement you seem to say that they must be your own creation, but then you suggest that drum loops can be bought.

Am I the only one who is worrying about this yet

No problem, say you want to build up a drum track using E-Z Drummer or some other such program, that's fine, you want to add a bass track using Trilian Bass VST, sure. You want to use the presets or your own presets for rhythm accompaniment on your Yamaha Motif keyboard, knock yourself out.

You want to use some preconfigured loops such as Acid Loops, or some one's else preconfigured loops, nope, nada, can't do.

I hope that makes it sound clearer, if you're still not sure on what's allowed PM me with details on what you plan on doing.

[fabkebab]

Anyone got any updates?

For our part, I think we have a song ready - It was actually "written" last tuesday, but I have been doing the recording part. I am likely to fill up the remaining days with far too much musical tweaking/fiddling

[Neal K]

UPDATE;

My collaborator (stars in my eyes) sent five different lyrics. I chose the last one she would have expected. So the lyric is decided on, although it may need minor tweaking. I also have a melody - just need time to sit down and work it all out. I expect to have a rough demo to my collaborator by Monday, so we're in good shape. I think.

Neal

[Bruce N]

Voting is now open and will run till June 3rd.

for your convenience a SoundClick station has been set up so you may listen to all songs in one go.

SoundClick Station Link: http://www.soundclic...ation&id=818240

Song list and teams:

"Those Summer Days" - Fabkebab/Gerybeard

"Summers By Your Side" - Decker/TamsNumber4

"Just Like Summer" - Neal K/Starsinmyeyes

"Until The Summer Ends" NigeQ/Billy

"Summer Home" - FunkDaddy/No Future

"Dance The Nights Away (All Summer Long) - Neuroron/Jonie

"Don't Trust That Summertime Smile" - Daddio/SatanInventedBras


Judging - The suggested criteria for judging the songs should be as follows:

Song Title - Must contain one of the words, Summer, Summers, Summer's or Summertime in the title.

Lyrics - How well they portray summer or summertime themed subject.

Music - How well it suits and fits the subject of the lyrics.

Performance - How well the song is sold, believability of the song.

Production - How well the song has been recorded and mixed.

Length of song - If the song is within the 3 minute target zone.

Your own personal like or dislike of the song.

Voting

Each contestant must judge on all songs, except for their own team entry, nor can they vote on their team entry.

All non-contestant voters are appreciated and welcomed. Support and encourage your fellow Muse.

Scoring

I'll be experimenting with a new type of scoring for the selection of the top three songs this time round, hopefully I won't be stepping into a big pile of do do with it.

Each voter listens and judges what their top three picks are, of the eligible songs available.

You then PM me the the top three picks of the teams you have chosen.

In example:

1st. pick - Lennon/McCartney

2nd. pick - Obama/Bidden

3rd. pick - Rowan/Martin

Points will be awarded as follows:

First pick - 3 points

Second pick - 2 points

Third pick - 1 point


No other points are awarded to the remaining songs.

All song scores and score totals will be posted

This thread is for song entries only. For commentary, please use this link: http://www.musesmuse...40&#entry515624

Bruce

[Bruce N]

No flys on you guys eh! For the sweatshopers, there is now a pinned topic thread for you to post your entries, along with the judging and scoring criteria and details.

Just remember once you have posted your song entry, you will no longer be able to re-edit or re-mix your song that is posted for this contest. You may post upgraded versions of this song in other forums once this contest is over.

Bruce

[FunkDaddy]

We're having some trouble hashing out a lyric that we both agree on, but we're getting there

[NigeQ]

We have a song. It's more or less sorted out bar a few lyrical tweaks. I'm planning to record it this weekend

[daddio]

We're on schedule and I hope to record this weekend.

[FunkDaddy]

Got a lyric basically agreed upon, music is coming along surprisingly quick.

[neuroron]

My team mate, Martin6, got laid up by a bad case of the flu, necessitating an alternate lyricist. Jonie (who was the only of the alternates that I haven't collaborated with in the past) and I got teamed up last Sunday. The writing is done and I'm in the process of recording.